mamamoo problematic thread
Thats not true. : ) : ) Wow! Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. Our hearts on fire . If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. Posts: 310. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. Solar will previal . I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. While it is common for artists to tease their comebacks for up to a month, the time they spend on promoting the new music in conventional ways such as music shows and variety show appearances has decreased by . Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. }) I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. You need to Register or Login to view the content. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. That crosses every sort of line. Red Velvet too. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). We are one of the worlds fastest growing Threads: 138. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. }); The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. The thing is, it is not just another joke. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. That obviously didnt work too well. ga('ads.send', { MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? Mamamoo - Solar. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Read more about it here. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. }) For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. ga('ads.send', { They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. } MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. omg lol at everything written under heechul. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. One tweet under the #AskHwasa hashtag read, "Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. Thanks for the reply! As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. Feels bad yo. Thank you~). eventAction: 'click_ads' ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. Mamamoo isn't problematic. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? It is absurd. ourbridgeisforever:. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Probation Faker. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. eventAction: 'click_adunit' I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. #AskHwasa. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. eventAction: 'view' Feb 22, 2023. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. Villain. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. let gads_event; Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. Goodnight. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. problematickpop:. 1,068. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. hitType: 'event', However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. } window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . but its hard not to be. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. Yes I should have included more context. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. MAMAMOO () is a four-member girl group currently under RBW. where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. 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