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FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Can you tell us how that all came about? FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. FLOTHE: Thank you. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. But then also, it was not personal enough that it would come home with me and affect my sleeping. FLOTHE: The same person. I saw him the next day, Sunday. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. CINDY: Yep. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Ducks and birds. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. And I said, Fine, no problem.. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. CINDY: The automatic opener. FLOTHE: Like this? All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! He seemed really like a pretty good guy. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? But he had brown socks on. RH: Yes. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. CINDY: Yep. He died in prison last month aged 75. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. Im not correct on the times, OK? Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. CINDY: He approached me. Learn how your comment data is processed. And I really, really If there was any chance of me getting away, he wasnt getting away with it. The woman, who was. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. FLOTHE: Youre positive. Dont worry. CINDY: Uh huh. (Sound of pages turning. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This looks black but its actually blue. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! Were all connected. Cindy coughs.) You know, like mine is. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? CINDY: Regular Just working boots. CINDY: It was a black CINDY (cont. CINDY: It wasnt painted. The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. About four stairs to get into the house. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. So, that was nice. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. Every time it was in my face. FLOTHE: I hope not. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! What did you learn from them? I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. Looking at picture number five, is there anything different about him as you saw him, compared to the picture, Robert Hansen Police Lineup Photo Your email address will not be published. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). "Good riddance to him.". Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. to start my podcast and YouTube channel. With a cut in the back. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: Uh huh. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. FLOTHE: Um hmm. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. CINDY: Tons It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: They were a dark brown. CINDY: All right. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). Just him by himself. CINDY: Uh huh. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. With a wood handle. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. Is there anything else that you have coming up? For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Flothe said. CINDY: Yep. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. CINDY: It was a really dark color. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. CINDY: No. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. FLOTHE: In your face? FLOTHE: About what time? The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. It just felt (inaudible) and he pulled the gun out and that time he had handcuffs on my hands and I couldnt get the door open. Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. John Paulson. FLOTHE: OK. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? (inaudible). Hes got like frog warts on his face. Like a station wagon. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? CINDY: Im positive. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. CINDY: Um hmm. CINDY: Right around Fourth and Denali. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. She left the ADN in October 2018. CINDY: Yep. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. There was a bullet hole in the floor. FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. It was smooth. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. They look at them in a very specific way. This is a very intense film. Im not involved though. CINDY: Yep. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? CINDY: Uh huh Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. Do not sell or share my personal information. CINDY: Um hmm FLOTHE: And about what time was that? Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. (inaudible) CINDY: Uh huh. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. The FBI had been spot on about everything. Interesting stuff. He was right to worry, state officials later said. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. Others have never been found. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: OK. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. There were horns. CINDY: Yes, directly. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. And if Im not mistaken I think he got green or blue eyes. On his terms. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. Your email address will not be published. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. Cause that was the smallest he had. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. He was 75 years old. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. Okay. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. 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